Who?
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) — Chair, House Judiciary Committee
LISTEN: Laslo & Jordan
Ask a Pol asks:
Some people are saying Jack Smith was talking about the phone calls, not the texts. What do you make of that?
Key Jordan:
“Well, we always say when we start these depositions, you got to give us all the truth. Half-truths is same as not giving us the truth,” Rep. Jim Jordan exclusively tells Ask a Pol.
“Plus, he’s not just Joe Bag of Donuts, first year out of law school. He’s, you know, Mr. Jack Smith — at The Hague, everything else. Come on. You’re considered the Mr. Super Prosecutor. Brought in specifically, picked by [fmr. Attorney General Merrick] Garland to go after President [Donald Trump]. Come on, you know what we’re talking about. Anyone with a brain can figure that out.”
ICYMI — Jack Smith’s defense
Caught our ear:
What do you make of critics’ accusations that you’re weaponizing the Judiciary Committee and targeting President Trump’s political “enemies”?
“Not at all,” Jordan tells us. “Not at all.”
Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH), slightly edited for clarity.
TRANSCRIPT: Rep. Jim Jordan (7-23-2026)
SCENE: Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo catches Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan and a few aides as they’re walking in an underground tunnel from the Rayburn House Office Building to the US Capitol ahead of the last scheduled vote in the House of Representatives until September.
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Matt Laslo: “Mr. Jordan. How are you?”
Jim Jordan: “Good. You?”
Matt Laslo: “Livin the dream.”
Jim Jordan: “Covering Congress is livin’ the dream?”
Laslo laughs.
Matt Laslo: “Hey, I’ve read the Constitution. You guys have the power.”
Jim Jordan: “You gotta dream bigger.”
Matt Laslo: “Fair, fair.”
Laslo laughs.
Matt Laslo: “How are you feeling about the Jack Smith stuff? Do you think DOJ — is there enough there?”
Jim Jordan: “I do, or we wouldn’t have sent it. I mean, come on, you can’t say we didn’t get contents of their communications when in fact you had contents of our communications. You’re supposed to filter that out. They didn’t do that. And the guy who got the information on Jack Smith’s team was [Thomas] Windom, a guy we’ve already referred, because he just wouldn’t give any answers, was trying to obstruct our investigation. We’ve already referred him, and, of course, we referred Mr. Smith too.”
Matt Laslo: “Some people are saying he was talking about the phone calls, not the texts. What do you make of that?”
Jim Jordan: “Well, we always say when we start these depositions, you got to give us all the truth. Half-truths is same as not giving us the truth.”
Matt Laslo: “Yeah?”
Jim Jordan: “Plus, he’s not just Joe Bag of Donuts, first year out of law school.”
Matt Laslo: “Yeah?”
Jim Jordan: “He’s, you know, Mr. Jack Smith — at The Hague, everything else, you know, come on. You’re considered the Mr. Super Prosecutor. Brought in specifically, picked by [fmr. Attorney General Merrick] Garland to go after the president. Come on, you know what we’re talking about. Anyone with a brain can figure that out.”
Matt Laslo: “Well, they’re saying you guys are weaponizing it now and going after him?”
Jim Jordan: “Not at all. Not at all.”
Jordan and his aides enter an elevator to the House floor.
Matt Laslo: “Thank you, sir.”
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